At the 73rd CFA Annual Conference, Aswath Damodaran, Professor of Finance at New York University’s Stern School of Business was asked for his thoughts on value vs. growth investing. His response: If by value investing you mean investing in something (where) the price is less than the value, I’ve never understood the divide. After all, growth is part of value. But I think I know what you mean. I think you mean by value investing those people who flock to Omaha every year – that think that every word comes out of Warren Buffett’s mouth is the gospel. And that buy low P/E stocks and high dividend yield stocks somehow entitles them to a return: I don’t have much hope for value investing. It’s become rigid, it’s become ritualistic, it’s become rightist. And for the last decade, not only has it lost to growth investing – I think this crisis has exposed how empty old-time value investing has become.1
The “Dean of Valuation” does not believe in value investing. He has a point. The term “value investing” has become distorted to mean “low-multiple” – whether it is price-to-earnings, enterprise value-to-EBITDA, free cash flow yield, or another metric. The misrepresentation has been exacerbated by quantitative factor strategies which rely solely (or at the very least mainly) on market multiples.
Valuation metrics are an important step in the process of finding underpriced securities. They serve as a useful shorthand for market expectations, allowing analysts and portfolio managers to assess how well the company must perform to meet or beat the market’s targets. But they are not the process. The process includes assessing competitive environments, growth prospects, cash generation, management, and a plethora of other qualitative and quantitative factors. Good fundamental analysts assess whether the price truly translates to the company’s value. That is the spirit of value investing.
Professor Damodaran is probably right: old-time value investing has become empty. We need to understand that the investing environment is constantly evolving. Even Warren Buffett, one of the greatest (perhaps the greatest) investors of all time and the most recognized figure on the “Mount
Rushmore of Value” has evolved his approach over the years. In 2002, he famously pronounced (jokingly) “if a capitalist had been present at Kitty Hawk back in the early 1900s, he should have shot Orville Wright.” Fifteen years later he bought airline stocks. Berkshire bought Amazon stock throughout 2019 while the price to earnings ratio was in the 60’s. The sixties! Great investors are flexible: adapt or die.
MAP still follows the fundamental principle of value investing: buy when the price is below the value of the company. This principle has not changed since Benjamin Graham developed the concept in the 1920s. Companies with higher valuation metrics have higher targets to hit, but many will end up hitting and exceeding those higher targets. Companies with low valuation metrics often have lower targets for good reason: secular decline, management apathy, and intense competition makes many businesses unattractive even at their low multiples.
Due caution is prescribed when investing in high multiple companies. More things must go right for their shares to outperform. Additionally, the consequences of things going wrong (increased competition, poor management decisions, Acts of God) can have a crippling effect on stock prices when multiples are stretched. Downward expectations revisions are amplified when a company’s valuation relies on high earnings and cash flow growth many years into the future. The uncertainty of these cash flows can scare off investors when events in the short-term magnify potential longterm risks.
During the last few months, prices have swung dramatically and our investment team has been monitoring developing opportunities. MAP will continue to assess companies based on all merits. Valuation multiples will be an important part of that process. Quantitatively, low-multiple stocks do appear to be cheap, having underperformed for most of the last decade – meaning that good opportunities could be found today at the low end of the valuation spectrum. However, MAP focuses on the long term for our portfolios and we continue to see price movements that do not reflect the fundamentals in both high-quality and low-quality companies. We will not invest in companies that we believe have become highly speculative.
Ultimately, the value vs. growth debate will rage on. All else equal, a cheaper stock is more attractive than an expensive stock, but a low market multiple alone does not necessarily make a good investment. MAP’s strategy is to find individual names with attractive risk-reward characteristics, then build a well-diversified portfolio of our best ideas. We assess companies based on their fundamentals, prospects, and valuation. This has not and will not change.
Managed Asset Portfolios Investment Team
Michael Dzialo, Karen Culver, Peter Swan, John Dalton, Zack Fellows
Research and analysis by Dustin Dieckmann
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